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Think about it…
Ever hear the saying, “guns don’t kill people, people kill people?” Well I have, and it’s certainly true. You can’t blame inanimate objects for the actions of others when the actions themselves are what is really to blame. So banning guns merely because they may facilitate the killing of others doesn’t seem valid on its face…
Now parallel that with drug use. Aren’t people who do harm to themselves or kill themselves via drug use really just a victim of their own actions, and not inanimate objects? Even people who kill others (either intentionally or accidentally) while they’re all doped up, well… Aren’t they themselves to blame (i.e., through their actions), rather than the inanimate object (i.e., the drugs)?
So if you agree with the first proposition (guns), you must agree with the second (drugs), right? They’re both freedoms (or ought to be freedoms) that can be exercised insofar as they don’t do harm to others, correct? We jail the man who murdered his wife with a handgun as well as the man who killed a pedestrian while intoxicated just the same…
EDIT: I agree with the notion that the right to bear arms doesn’t imply owning war machines or bazookas, just the same as people should be allowed to use crystal meth (even under the scheme I’m suggesting). Those are sensible limitations… But isn’t my basic proposition still true?
jeeper_peeper321: My argument has nothing to do with the Constitution. It’s about the logical REASONS as to why one may or may not support this position. But yes, the Constitution does specifically grant the right to bear arms, and you’re right, it does not specifically grant the right to take drugs. However, does it specifically grant the right to get a tattoo? Drink alcohol? Own a pet? Get a weird haircut? etc., etc… No, the Constitution does not specifically enumerate these rights, but we are still allowed to do them. Take alcohol for example. Whats so different between that and marijuana? And so forth…
I guess I should clarify.My Ex is very well off and just inherited a over a million dollars.My daughter is cleaning houses so they do not loose there house.The new wife just bought a 500000 dollar house and all her children are welcome there but not his children,The excuse is that my so-inlaws weehchair scratches her wood floors.I am over my Ex but why is he so bad to his 2 daughters and grandchildren he was not like this untill he married her on one of his drunken binges,truat me he knows he made a big mastake and also refuses to wear a wedding ring he always wore it for 25 years with me,do you think he is afraid of another divorce and that they do not have a pre nupital.
Salamalaikum.
When you experienced sadness yesterday, your situation didn’t get any better by you being sad. Your son failed in school, and you became depressed, yet did your depression change the fact that he failed? Your father passed away, and you became downhearted, yet did that bring him back to life? You lost your business, and you became saddened. Did this change your situation by transforming losses into profits?
Do not be sad: You became despondent due to a calamity, and by doing so, created addition calamities. You became depressed because of poverty and this only increased the bitterness of your situation. You became gloomy because of what your enemies said to you; by entering into that mental state, you unwillingly helped them in their attack against you. You became sullen because you expected a particular misfortune, and yet it never came to pass.
Do not be sad: Truly a large mansion will not protect you from the effects of depression; and neither will a beautiful wife, abundant wealth, a high position, or brilliant children.
Do not be sad: Sadness causes you to imagine poison when you are really looking at pure water, to see a cactus when you are looking at a rose, to see a barren desert when you are looking at a lush garden, and to feel that you are in an unbearable prison when you are living on a vast and spacious earth.
Do not be sad: You have two eyes, two ears, lips, two hands, two legs, a tongue heart, peace, safety, and a healthy body. (Then which of the Blessings of your Lord will you both [jinns and men] deny?) (Qur’an 55:13)
Do not be sad: You have the true Religion to live by, a house to live in, bread to eat, water to drink, clothes to wear, a wife to find comfort with; why the the melancholy?
I’ll try not to make this too long and drawn out. My boyfriend has been in a custody battle for his little girl for pretty much her entire life. We decided to go a different route since home visits and he-said she-said stuff really doesn’t prove anything.
Custody battle pretty much went as follows: She cheated on him with the baby in the room (and the court really didn’t seem to care much about that) and she got custody since the baby was so small. The next time, she admits to drug use because of her current felon-convicted boyfriend and loses her child who stay with her dad. Next, dad’s wife lies about dad in court and gets her taken away again, before the charge was dismissed completely by the court, but he still lost her and didn’t have enough money to go back for a fourth time.
He is working on getting enough money, and we’re actually planning to get married soon (I’m not pregnant, and it’s not JUST to take the child from her mom, we’re doing it the right way).
We went to take the little girl on an afternoon to his parents house where she had fun playing with her cousin. When we took her back at 9pm as promised. My recording caught the following:
First of all, you can clearly hear a roudy house full of other kids (about 3) and the mom of this child yelling at them, and actually cursing.
My boyfriend saying to his daughter, “Here, let me get your coat off, ok”.. and the felon-convicted boyfriend of mother saying “No keep your coat on, we’re about to leave.”
My boyfriend: “It’s already 9, isn’t it a little late for her to be out?”
Mother: “___, don’t even start that”
Felon: “It’s Friday night, no school tomorrow, we stay out as late as we want!” (Clearly intoxicated, and they had another adult that was intoxicated with them)
The papers clearly state visitation, and he asks her if it’s ok if he has the visitation which is stated in the papers for Christmas. He also mentions since he was denied his visitation from her for Christmas because she refused to let him take her. When he asks her about the dates she says: “Well I don’t know, I’ll have to get with my lawyer on that”, He mentions not being allowed to see her, and the felon says in the background yelling “and who’s fault was that?” And he says the mother’s name. The felon continues to say “You’re not even a daddy, she calls me daddy not you.”
The mother goes on to say that “___(child) has an ***hole for a daddy”. And the felon chimes in agreeing.
My boyfriend goes on to just say, “well I guess I’ll just have my lawyer contact your lawyer to get everything straightened out ok? Cause it says it clearly in your copy and my copy of the papers”, and she says to him, “___(his name), I’m not dealing with your s*** get the F*** outta my house”.. all this time you hear all the kids playing in the background and her daughter saying “mama, look…” and things like that, the whole time.
I stopped recording as soon as we started to leave because I figured that was it. And I left the door and turned around cause I heard her cry and say “daddy wait” and i tried to tell her bye, or even find her in the trash in that trailor and all the sudden I see the felon-convict lunge at the door which was then was slammed in my face so hard it made the wreath on the door almost fall off and the whole house shook. My boyfriend was also recording and this was caught this.
Next thing you hear in my recording is the mom yelling at the top of her lungs (obviously right in my face) saying “Oooooh, you’re recording? That’s just great, you know why!??!?” you can hear the daughter wimpering in the background, saying daddy, and she tells her drunk friend to get the kids back inside for a minute. She then proceeds to yell at the top of her lungs in my face about how I should get in her face about anything. I said, “but I didn’t get in your face”.
I remembered that she’d let the little girl watch freddy cruger the last time we were there and asked her on recording why she let her daughter, a 3 year old watch it, and she said “OH MY F**** GAW! Are you F**** serious, Dude?” And I just said “she’s three years old, why, she’s just three years old?” And she said “well! Cause she likes it!”
She then proceeded to say, “Well what about all this hickie s** on your neck” (pointing to a mark that wasn’t even there”. I didn’t say anything, but asked her about how she slept with another guy, cheating on the baby’s father, when her daughter was 2 months with the daughter in the room. And she said, “ARE YOU F*** SERIOUS, DUDE? SERIOUSLY?” I said “why” and she said “She wasn’t even there when we did it, she was at her F***** Grandma’s Ok?”
The entire time, both me and my boyfriend had calm voice tones, as we always do with them, and they were beligerant and screaming and cussing at both us and the situation.
That’s when I turned the recording off and just left. We called the cops and made a report about the situation and the cops went to that house, and w
we just went home.
I know no one here can make a 100% correct prediction. But we won’t see the DHS until Monday morning. And even then we’re just worried that she’ll get awaywith everything just cause she’s the mom. We both have good jobs, and can support her easily, and her mom and boyfriend work on minimum wage part time constantly having to move because they are always evicted and can’t find a place to stay.
I stayed up with him last night and he and I cried all night long. We’re just sick. And this was the worst thing I’ve ever whitnessed and he says it happens all the time. I don’t know whether to just keep recording if that will do me any good or if you think that it will make headway.
Please don’t flag this just because it’s long. I’m sorry, We’re just so upset about everything I just need some kind of opinion. I love her like she was my own flesh and blood, it seems like I love her more than her own mom does.
Any input would help so much.
Thanks!
I just reviewed the recording again:
My boyfriend: “the paper say.. (I won’t get into detiail), I’d like to see her on Christmas eve since I didn’t even get to see her during Christmas last time.”
Felon: “And who’s fault was that?”
MyBoyfriend: “Sasha’s, cause she wouldn’t let me take her”
Felon: “Well, there aint no way, dude” (talking about his court ordered visitation, he was trying to deny my boyfriend)
MyBoyfriend: “You aint her daddy, so I’m not gonna argue with you about it”
Felon: “You know what, she calls me daddy though.
Mom: “We’re not gonna do this guys ok?”
Felon: “Well she has an ***hole for a daddy”
Mom: (Very loudly in front of the kids) “Ya she DOES have an ***hole for a daddy”
MyBoyfriend: “well I’m gonna be bringing her back on this day, is that ok?” (stating exactly as he is allowed in the papers)
Mom: “Well, I don’t know, I’m gonna have to talk to my lawyer on that”.
MyBoyfriend: “Well if you want, I can have my lawyer contact
Mind you, I didn’t start a fight with her, she attacked me as I was being as sweet as I could. I’ve done nothing but be completely nice to her, and she’s actually had her friends call and harrass me and my boyfriend in texts and calls.
Where do i start? There is no question that I love my wife. For two years i have been married to her. I was the happiest man in the world when the both of us decided to elope back in 2006.
Unfortunatlly i never expected such a dark cloud of suffering during my 2 years of marriage. My wife and I were married back in March of 2006. One month later i found out a horrifying issue that she has. She was addicted to Crack Cocaine and Pain Pills.
I never saw it coming. It was just a mack truck that hit me straight on and it has yet to stop. Before we were married my wife was laid off from her job. She did not take it well at all. She was always upset, always sleeping and i noticed that she was not taking care of her place much anymore. I just thought to myself that this was probably typical when depressed about losing a job.
A couple weeks after we go married i notice odd things missing. I couldnt find my poker set, i couldnt find my watch, i couldnt find my camera..etc.. Since we just moved to a new house i just thought it was just packed up somewhere. After all was unpacked i still didnt find them. Everyweek something would dissapear.
During the same time i would notice that 20 here, 20 there was taken from the ATM a number of times each week…I couldnt figure it out. Sometime in April i needed to leave town for business for 5 days. Everything had been going great until my third day away. I was at a CVS buying a snack and my card was declined. Thinking that maybe i just forgot to move my money from one account to another i made no big deal of it. A couple hours later i was shocked to notice that 3 transactions had been made for 150, 300 and 220 from 9pm to 3am. I called the wife to see why so much was taken out a i couldnt get a hold of her to 24 hours.
After i came home i kept drilling her on why so much $ was taken out and she just said that she owed some people money and that its all taken care of. Naturally that answer was not good enough for me, but i just delt with it.
A week later once again 350 bucks was taken out. I tried to call her but no answer. I did not hear back for 48 hours. I begged and proded and pleaded to her. She finally broke down and told me the truth she was addicted to crack and pain pills and periodically she would have her binges. She promised me it wouldnt happen again and she was getting help.
A week later 500 gone. The continous circle of money concerns, divorce threats, appologies and dissapointments has gone full circle over an infinate number of times. The worst month was in September of 2007 when 2600 had been taken from savings in one month.
There have been a number of things ive tried from controling the money, letting our family know of the issues, selling out second car to make up for bills and to also limit her ability to drive. She just finds ways to still get her fix. From forging my name on my checks to phycolohgically messing with my mind and making me feel horrible for making her feel like i was controling her life.
In my opinion im dont believe that i crossed the line. I gave her money when she asked. All i asked was for reciepts. I would take her to when she wanted to go at ANYTIME of the day or night. i was her personal choffier. But unfortunatllly that wasnt enought in her mind. So what do i do?? Loan her the car. Unfortunatlly there were time where i got the impact of her binges. Many times she would leave me stranded for hours after work and i would just wait. Knowing deep inside the reason she was late was because she wasnt in a state to drive. On average i would be stranded for 5 or 6 hours until she came to get me or if i convinced a friend to drop me off. The worst was when i went to work an event 2 hours away from home Both her an i were working different promotional events. She got out a couple hours before i did. Because of that i gave her the car to get us something to eat…..She never came back. I didnt knopw what to do? My wife had left me to go 2 hours south to get her fix. She kept telling me that she was leaving in 10 minutes…2 hours went to 4 hours, 4 hours when to 6 hours…etc..It was midnight and she still hadnt shown up. I knew i had to walk to a hotel. I arrived at the hotel. Unfortunatlly to my dissapointment the card was declined. I looked in my pocket and only had 50 bucks. The room was 90. I couldnt do anything. I checked my balence and noticed “$0″. I called my wife and told her that i had 0 money and that i could not get a room. She said she would be leaving to get me….I was in the streets for 48 hours until i ran into a lady that was desperate for gas money and needed to go accross the state. After i convinced her i was safe, i gave her my last 40 bucks i had with me and she dropped me off to my car.
I love my wife, but going through this wirlwind of stress at the moment. Its really effecting my health and my job. At the same time i dont vent to anyone since i am JUST SO EMBARRASED about the wh
Texas
• A city ordinance states that a person cannot go barefoot without first obtaining a special five-dollar permit.
• A recently passed anticrime law requires criminals to give their victims 24 hours notice, either orally or in writing, and to explain the nature of the crime to be committed.
• Abilene: It is illegal to idle or loiter anyplace within the corporate limits of the city for the purpose of flirting or mashing.
• Austin: Wire cutters can not be carried in your pocket.
• Beaumont: Collegiate football is banned at Lamar University.
• Borger: It is against the law to throw confetti, rubber balls, feather dusters, whips or quirts (riding crop), and explosive firecrackers of any kind.
• Clarendon: It is illegal to dust any public building with a feather duster.
• Dallas: It’s illegal to possess realistic dildos.
• El Paso: Churches, hotels, halls of assembly, stores, markets, banking rooms, railroad depots, and saloons are required to provide spittoons “of a kind and number to efficiently contain expectorations into them.”
• Galveston: It is illegal to drive a motor car down Broadway before noon on Sundays.
• Houston: Beer may not be purchased after midnight on a Sunday, but it may be purchased on Monday. It is illegal to sell Limburger cheese on Sunday.
• If two trains going in opposite directions on the same track meet each other, one can’t move until the other does.
• If you went to church in Texas years back, you’d better be recognized. An old law made it illegal to go to church in disguise.
• In Alamo a person found intoxicated must be given a large dose of castor oil by a local doctor…and failure to gulp it down will result in a fine.
• In Corpus Christie it is illegal to raise alligators in your home.
• In Dallas County it is illegal to own any realistic looking, phallic shaped, personal massager more than one foot in length.
• In Houston you cannot buy beer after midnight on Sunday, but you can buy it on Monday.
• In Kingsville, there is a law against two pigs having sex on the city’s airport property.
• In Lefors, Texas it is illegal to take more than three swallows of beer at any time while standing.
• In Mesquite, Texas it is illegal for kids to have unusual haircuts.
• In Texas criminals are required to give their victims 24 hours notice, either orally or in writing, and to explain the nature of the crime to be committed.
• In Texas it’s legal for a chicken to have sex with you, but it’s illegal to reciprocate.
• It is illegal for one to shoot a buffalo from the second story of a hotel.
• It is illegal to carry a pair of wire-cutters in your back pocket.
• It is illegal to drive without windshield wipers. You don’t need a windshield, but you must have the wipers.
• It is illegal for a person to shoot a buffalo from the second story of their hotel.
• It is illegal to have an open container in a car.
• It is illegal to have anything protruding from your bumper unless it is attached with a chain
• It is illegal to milk another person’s cow.
• It is illegal to spit on the sidewalk.
• It is illegal to take more than three sips of beer at a time while standing.
• It is illegal to urinate on the Alamo.
• It is legal for a husband to beat his wife as long as he uses something no bigger than his thumb.
• It is legal for the blind to go hunting as long as they have someone with them who isn’t blind.
• It is legal to commit a homicide as long as you tell the person when, and how you are going to kill them.
• It is Texas law that when two trains meet each other at a railroad crossing, each shall come to a full stop, and neither shall proceed until the other has gone.
• In San Antonio, Texas, you can’t honk a horn, run a generator, have a revival meeting or do anything else that disturbs the neighborhood and the city has a four-member noise police squad to enforce the law.
• In Texas any artificial constructed underwater barrier reefs must come with an instruction booklet.
• In Texas, sixteen-year old divorced girls are prohibited from talking about sex during high school extracurricular activities.
• It is unlawful for a person to consume an alcoholic beverage while operating a motor vehicle upon a public roadway, if the person is observed doing so by a peace officer.
• Jasper: Dogs must be on a leash at ALL times. Fine of 100 dollars.
• LeFors: It is illegal to take more than three swallows of beer while standing.
• Lubbock County: It is illegal to drive within an arm’s length of alcohol – including alcohol in someone else’s blood stream.
• Mesquite: It is illegal for children to have unusual haircuts.
• Port Arthur: Obnoxious odors may not be emitted while in an elevator.
• Richardson: It is now illegal to place a “for sale” sign on a car if it visible from the street. It is illegal to do “U Turns”.
• San Antonio: It is illegal for both sexes to flirt or respond to flirtation using the eyes and/or hands.
• Temple: No one may ride a horse and buggy through the town square. You can ride your horse in the saloon. Cattle thieves may be hanged on the spot.
• Texarkana: Owners of horses may not ride them at night without tail lights.
• Texas law forbids anyone to have a pair of pliers in his possession.
• Texas state law prohibits taking more than three sips of beer at a time while standing.
• The entire Encyclopedia Britannica is banned in Texas because it contains a formula for making beer at home.
• There is an old law in Texas that states you are unable to tuck your pants into one boot unless you own ten or more cattle.
• When two trains meet each other at a railroad crossing, each shall come to a full stop, and neither shall proceed until the other has gone.
• You can be legally married by publicly introducing a person as your husband or wife 3 times.
Crazy laws, type it in your search engine, and this will pop up. They have it on all the U.S. States.
ALICE Pung’s Unpolished Gem is the story of a family rebuilding their lives after Cambodia’s appalling Pol Pot years. Pung was conceived in a Thai refugee camp and born after her Chinese-Cambodian parents, her paternal grandmother and an aunt arrived in Melbourne.
In naming Alice, her father invoked a Western story about a girl: “This new daughter of his will grow up in this Wonder Land and take for granted things like security, abundance, democracy and the little green man on the traffic lights.”
“This story does not begin on a boat,” Pung writes, partly to dash stereotypes, but partly because she is partial to a terrific sentence. She goes on to enliven, complicate, contradict and sometimes even confirm wider community perceptions of Indochinese Australians.
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Somehow Pung achieves a tone both lush and raw. For a book so preoccupied with fraught emotions — both exposed and hidden, and including Pung’s own crises — Unpolished Gem possesses the steadiest of heartbeats.
Her descriptions of Melbourne life, of her mother the outworking jewellery-maker, her father the Retravision franchisee, the birth of her three siblings, the death of her beloved grandmother, her double life of home and school, are interspersed with tales, brief but not perfunctory, of her elders’ pre-Australian lives.
“We are trying to assimilate, to not stand out from the neighbours, to not bring shame to our whole race by carrying over certain habits from the old country, such as growing chickens in the backyard or keeping goats as pets.”
In the portrait of her mother, Pung reveals the complexity of assimilation (and the term’s revelatory inadequacies). Although strong-willed, opinionated, intelligent and astonishingly hardworking, “She was loud because she could not read or speak the secret talk we knew.
“She could not read because she had been housebound for two decades. And now, over the dinner table, she would watch as my father and his children littered their language with English terms, until every second word was in a foreign tongue”. Her emergence from depression and isolation as a salesperson at Retravision is a triumph of persistence and courage. The whole episode is recounted by Pung with an assured mix of bluntness, sensitivity and humour.
Storytelling is at the heart of Unpolished Gem but this, too, exposes tensions. Pung’s grandmother and mother frequently clashed. Both employed four-year-old Alice as ally and spy, leading her to “discover that being good means just being good to the person who is telling you to be good”. Her account of this childhood predicament is unsettling, especially when her mother angrily questions her loyalties. But her conclusion is compelling:
I was doomed, early on, to be a word-spreader. To tell these stories that the women of my family made me promise never to tell a soul. Perhaps they told me because they really did want the other camp to hear. Or perhaps my word-spreading is also the only way to see that there was once flesh attached to these bones, that there was once something living and breathing, something that inhaled and exhaled; something that slept and woke up every morning with the past effaced, if only for a moment. That was a good beginning, and in this good beginning the stories would come like slow trickles of truth, like blood coursing through the veins.
Pung’s portrait of her grandmother, herself a “magical” storyteller, reveals only snippets of an extraordinary life: a committed communist, she left China for Cambodia under a political cloud; she once tried to swap her baby son for a girl; her first two daughters died in Phnom Penh, from illness and accident; she was the second wife of a man who stole their fifth son for his first wife; she had healing powers; she survived the Pol Pot years. While Pung weaves these stories seamlessly into her narrative I wanted more — a whole other book — about her grandmother.
Cambodia remains distant in Pung’s narrative: for her it is a foreign country. Pol Pot, too, hovers like a shadow. Pung’s focus is elsewhere, and the story would be burdened by descriptions of killing fields and refugee camps.
And there are many ways to write about the consequences of war and crimes against humanity. Still, one time, at a family gathering at a restaurant, Alice’s father said:
This fish reminds me of the Pol Pot years when the starved, dead bodies floated up the river during the flood. I got the job of dragging them to higher, dryer land. We wrapped them up in a dry blanket and me and my mate grabbed on to each end. Every time we tripped, the blanket would get water-soaked and even heavier. Hah hah, so funny! And listen to this — my mate turns to me and says, “Hope you’re not going to be this heavy when it’s time
Proof That The World Is Nuts
In Lebanon, men are legally allowed to have sex with animals, but the
animals must be female. Having sexual relations with a male animal is
punishable by death.
(Like THAT makes sense.)
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In Bahrain, a male doctor may legally examine a woman’s genitals, but is
prohibited from looking directly at them during the examination. He may
only see their reflection in a mirror.
(Do they look different reversed?)
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Muslims are banned from looking at the genitals of a corpse. This also
applies to undertakers. The sex organs of the deceased must be covered
with a brick or piece of wood at all times.
(A brick?)
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The penalty for masturbation in Indonesia is decapitation.
(Much worse than “going blind!”)
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There are men in Guam whose full-time job is to travel the countryside
and deflower young virgins, who pay them for the privilege of having sex
for the first time.
Reason: under Guam law, it is expressly forbidden for virgins to marry.
(Let’s just think for a minute; is there ANY job anywhere else in the
world that even comes close to this?)
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In Hong Kong, a betrayed wife is legally allowed to kill her adulterous
husband, but may only do so with her bare hands. The husband’s illicit
lover, on the other hand, may be killed in any manner desired.
(Ah! Justice!)
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Topless saleswomen are legal in Liverpool, England – but only in
tropical fish stores.
(But of course!)
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In Cali, Colombia, a woman may only have sex with her husband, and the
first time this happens, her mother must be in the room to witness the
act.
(Makes one shudder at the thought.)
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In Santa Cruz, Bolivia, it is illegal for a man to have sex with a woman
and her daughter at the same time.
(I presume this was a big enough problem that they had to pass this
law?)
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In Maryland, it is illegal to sell condoms from vending machines with
one exception: Prophylactics may be dispensed from a vending machine
only “in places where alcoholic beverages are sold for consumption on
the premises.”
(Is this a great country or what? Well, not as great as Guam!)
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Banging your head against a wall uses 150 calories an hour.
(Who volunteers for this stuff?)
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Humans and dolphins are the only species that have sex for pleasure.
(Is that why Flipper was always smiling?)
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The ant can lift 50 times its own weight, can pull 30 times its own
weight and always falls over on its right side when intoxicated.
(From drinking little bottles of???)(Did the government pay for this
research??)
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Butterflies taste with their feet..
(Ah, geez.)
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An ostrich’s eye is bigger than its brain.
(I know some people like that.)
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Starfish don’t have brains.
(I know some people like that, too.)
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And, the best for last?
Turtles can breathe through their butts.
(And I thought I had bad breath in the morning!)
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he’s not abusive in any way. it just hurts more than anything to have to see him this way, and he thinks that i don’t notice when he’s drunk. nor does he see his drinking as a problem. i’ve thought about divorce/separation, but waver. PLEASE HELP!!!! Any advice is good advice.
just to clarify a bit…i have told him how i feel about his drinking and how it hurts me and/or our marriage MANY times, yet he chooses to do it any way. We talk about it. It just doesn’t change. And to address one of the postings (“Spoil Me For Money”), we completed marriage counseling prior to the wedding so i knew that he had been drunk before. no one in my family is alcoholic. i’ve never been drunk or been around any one else that is an alcoholic, so when he told me it was in the past, i thought it would stay there. he drinks when he comes home from work, and already drunk by the time i get home. i know i/we need some type of counseling, but i want to know more about this situation from people who have been through it. Thanks to all for your replies. I really appreciate it.
tell us about your experience.
I was moved by the story of Mason’s family and how the head of this group was able to manipulate them into submission to him. do you find similar behavior in the history of your group?
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Free Manson ‘family’ members haunted by horror
By LINDA DEUTSCH, AP Special Correspondent Linda Deutsch, Ap Special Correspondent Sun Aug 9, 2:20 pm ET
LOS ANGELES – Forty years ago, they were kids. Vulnerable, alienated, running away from a world wracked by war and rebellion. They turned to a cult leader for love and wound up tied to a web of unimaginable evil.
They were part of Charles Manson’s “Family” and now, on the brink of old age, they are the haunted.
“I never have a day go by that I don’t think about it, especially about the victims,” says Barbara Hoyt who was 17 the summer of the Sharon Tate-LaBianca murders. “I’ve long ago accepted the fact it will never go away.”
The ones who aren’t in prison are scattered across the country. Some live under assumed names to hide their past from friends and business associates. Some have undergone surgery to remove the “X” that Manson ordered them to carve on their foreheads, showing they were “X”ed out of society. Some live with endless regret.
Those who escaped taking part in the spasm of terror that snuffed out at least nine lives would seem to be lucky. But their lives have been linked forever to one of the craziest mass murders in history.
“Manson made a lot of victims besides the ones he killed,” said Catherine Share, who once lived with the Manson Family under the nickname “Gypsy.” “He destroyed lives. There are people sitting in prison who wouldn’t be there except for him. He took all of our lives.”
It was 1969, the summer of the first moon landing. War was raging in Vietnam. Hippies were in the streets of San Francisco, the last bastion of the waning counterculture movement.
For many, that summer is remembered for one thing — the most shocking celebrity murders to ever hit Los Angeles. Mention of the Sharon Tate murders or the name Manson four decades later is enough to make people shudder.
On the morning of Aug. 9, a housekeeper ran screaming from a home in lush Benedict Canyon. She had discovered a scene of unspeakable carnage. Five bodies were scattered around the estate.
The most famous, actress Sharon Tate, 26, the pregnant wife of director Roman Polanski, had been stabbed multiple times. But there were four others that day and two more the next.
Abigail Folger, 25, heiress to a coffee fortune; Jay Sebring, 35, celebrity hair stylist; Voyteck Frykowski, 32, a Polish film director and Steven Parent, 18, friend of the caretaker, were found stabbed or shot in a bloody scene.
On the front door the victims’ blood was used to scrawl the words, “Death to Pigs.”
The city was thrown into a state of fear. If that was not enough, a similar murder scene was discovered the next night.
Wealthy grocer Leno La Bianca, 44, and his wife Rosemary, 38, were found stabbed to death in their home across town. A killer had carved the word “WAR” on Leno La Bianca’s body. The words “Helter Skelter” were written in blood on the refrigerator.
“These murders were probably the most bizarre in the recorded annals of American crime,” said Vincent Bugliosi, the former deputy district attorney who prosecuted the killers and wrote the book, “Helter Skelter.”
It would be more than three months before the name Charles Manson was linked to the crimes. And then the story became even weirder.
The discovery of Manson’s clan living in a high desert commune opened up the astounding story of an ex-convict who had gathered young people into a cult and ordered them to kill. His reasons still remain a subject of debate. Some say he wanted to foment a race war; others say it was senseless.
“It was a real-life horror story,” recalled Stephen Kay, who also prosecuted the Manson Family. “Manson is the real-life Freddie Kruger.”
The former prosecutors worry that Manson, 74, is becoming a folk hero to a new generation. He is the subject of several Web sites, and Manson souvenirs are sold online.
“Evil has its lure and Manson has become a metaphor for evil,” said Bugliosi.
Those cult members lucky enough not to have killed for Manson on Aug. 9-10, 1969 have spent decades trying to bury their past and free themselves from his grasp.
Some never succeeded. Sandra Good and Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme committed crimes later that they said were for Manson and went to federal prison.
When Good, 65, was paroled she moved near the maximum security prison that holds Manson, reportedly so she could “feel his vibes.” Fromme, 60, is due for parole this summer after serving 33 years for the attempted assassination of President Gerald Ford.
In 1969, there were perhaps 30 of them, a ragtag band of runaways and dropouts living on a movie ranch in the San Fernando Valley, all loyal to a sha
I have been married for 7 years and now have 3 kids, 7, 4, 2. We got married when I got pregnant with our first baby. I didnt know he had an oxy problem until after the baby was born. I was so confused and we battled with it for the past 6 years. I would kick him out when he was abusing it because it truly made me feel like he was a zombie, he was there physically but not mentally. I had a final ultimatum, either he quits or I leave! In January he went through detox and has been clean from oxy to the best of my knowledge ever since. We have insane trust issues because he ALWAYS lies even up until I pull the proof I have out right in front of his face and he sometimes still tries to deny it! Currently my issues are not oxy with him, he started just smoking (which is still grose), and then graduated to smoking spice and then finally to full blown pot! I also catch him with porn, its so degrading and makes me feel like a worthless wife! I mean I have done EVERYTHING to try to make myself his porn, boob job, I am very fit and I take care of the way I look. Its not enough because he is still looking at it. I am desperate, it’s just killing me! My fear is that the porn or pot could progress into something more serious too like a cocaine habit or an affair! I am LDS and I believe that I should stay but I don’t want to enable him either. I am supposed to talk to him about it tonight and have considered a separation or a schedule where he would have to prove his progress or else if he doesn’t get help I will leave! I am so confused and scared! I want him I love him but is there some way I can stay and still be helping him to stop this addictive cycle? (Please don’t make rude comments towards my religion)
We were at his house for a small get together. His wife, who was pregnant at the time, was out of state, visiting her parents.
I had gone there with a mutual friend, a female.
At our male friend’s house (there were other people there), he kept pouring her drinks until she was extremely intoxicated. He and she had gotten drunk one time and made out before.
They both asked me to leave. I kept asking her to come with me, but she said she wanted to “stay and kick it.”
Feeling that I wasn’t wanted, I left. The others left soon after me.
My male friend claims to have slept with my female friend. She doesn’t consider it “rape” even though I do b/c she considers him a good friend and she does not want to lose his friendship but she claims that she is NOT attracted to him -that it was the alcohol.
Neither one of them seem to be too upset about it. But I am upset that it happened b/c:
1. He has a pregnant wife.
2. She has a BF.
3. He claims she “has a drinking problem,” and “is an alcoholic.”
If she’s an alcoholic, THEN, why is he getting her drunk to take advantage of her? What kind of friend does that to another friend?
My female friend does NOT find the male friend to be attractive and blames the incident on alcohol.
She says she ONLY wanted to stay and continue “kicking it” and wishes that I “had stayed.”
In the meantime, HE is bragging about it to EVERYONE except his wife.
But my female friend claims that “NOTHING HAPPENED.”
What do you guys think? Did something happen? Or was SHE so repulsed by his unattractiveness that she did not let him touch her? If something did happen, is it rape?
I think anyone of u people that do not consider this to be rape has no clue as to the criminal laws of the United States.
If a man deliberately intoxicates a woman in order to take advantage of her and her judgment is so impaired that she cannot say “no”, then IT IS RAPE!
You people are a bunch of morons.
She is married to a total loser who doesn’t work, does drugs, is in and out of jail, disappears for days on drug binges, free-loads off his wife and contributes nothing to the household. We have been telling her to drop this loser for years but nothing seems to work. Her co-workers, her best friends, her family all advise her to leave him but she just won’t. Why does she continue to do this? Could this be a deep rooted psychological problem with her? Or is she just plain stupid?
i’ve started to write a vampire serie i’ve wrritten the second book opening and i thought it would be good to share
ok the story is about a halfwolf half girl princess everyone call katie who”s father dumped her on a boarding school used to be quite but then a teachercome to her school who is actually a vampire lord and falls for him even though he’s mean and cold hearted and scares everyone and she belives hes falling for her too but he only wants her for her blood and truns her into a vamp/wolf thing get up and leavs her for dead so now she hate everyone.
this the book 2 opening don’t steal it share your comments and tell me any ideas youve thought of it called The taste
oh and sorry about the spelling im dislactic so im not really good at that stuff
I sat alone under the twisted tree, I was waiting, hunger thrived through my body licked my lips it wouldn’t be long now, I could feel him coming. “Katie, I er… got your call” I heard him say from behind me, I turned around, Dave stood there gawking at me, I smiled human men were sooo… easy “what took you so long I called you 10 minutes ago.” I said to him in my usual exquisite voice. “I’m sorry” he whispered dropping to his knees and crawling next to me his eyes fixate on my body, I smiled again it never hurt to show my legs and turned away for him, he moved closer to me, “So, why did you call me?” he whispered in my ear, his breath tickled the back of my neck I sighed, “I’m hungry Dave.” His heart skipped a beat he began to pant, “Do you want me to…to let you drink again?” He wrapped his hands around my hips, “I think we both know the answer to that” I turned to face he, I was so close, close to his neck “the question is you going to let me?” I looked into his green eyes he had the same colour as my fathers; I had to do it, “would it be the same as last time?” I leant closer to him, I nodded. I saw him hesitate “are you thinking about you wife?” I placed my mouth next to his neck, he moaned “my wife? Never, not when I’m with you” I breathed my last words on him, “good, because I wanted the last thing you to ever think about to be me” He closed his eyes and moaned, “Katie” I bit into his slender neck lush seem to wash over me I ran my fingers through his soft hair. I felt his body weaken “Katie…” he whimpered then slumped unconscious into my arms I pulled my teeth out of his neck slowly, and ran my tongue over my teeth and on to his neck to lick up and driblets I missed. Dropping him on the dirty floor I stood up wiped the earth off my dress and watched his final heart beat die away, before turning and walking back down the way I came. I smiled I guess life really is a heartless bitch.
srry i should of added it only the frist two book which a vampish the rest are kinda more relistic and wolfish :)
My wife left me about 6 months ago. I know she filed for divorce but as for the status I don’t know. I have been out of commission so to speak. The last time we exchanged I had asked for her to please hold off for a few months. I don’t know if she did. It’s all about my disorder that I BELIEVE was triggered by the substance abuse. Well when she left I had been clean many years, but due to the trauma and my bad choices I went on a binge it’s been a long horrible binge, she told me a couple weeks ago to get it back together, get clean and working again because we need you(her and my daughter) well I am trying to do that now, but I know the with-drawls will be hell, I was wanted to ask her if she would keep me company through the with-drawls, not personally though that would be nice but by phone or chatting texting any of them Since I have gone through this before I know how important is to have someone with you so to speak. many people die during this detox. We don’t have money for a doctor or hospital do you think this would be ok? cause I need someone and I have no family or friends anymore in this state.
nice thought but no one wil lend me money. the last time it came to 35 grand.cant do it
We were at his house for a small get together. His wife, who was pregnant at the time, was out of state, visiting her parents.
I had gone there with a mutual friend, a female.
At our male friend’s house (there were other people there), he kept pouring her drinks until she was extremely intoxicated. He and she had gotten drunk one time and made out before.
They both asked me to leave. I kept asking her to come with me, but she said she wanted to “stay and kick it.”
Feeling that I wasn’t wanted, I left. The others left soon after me.
My male friend claims to have slept with my female friend. She doesn’t consider it “rape” even though I do b/c she considers him a good friend and she does not want to lose his friendship but she claims that she is NOT attracted to him -that it was the alcohol.
Neither one of them seem to be too upset about it. But I am upset that it happened b/c:
1. He has a pregnant wife.
2. She has a BF.
3. He claims she “has a drinking problem,” and “is an alcoholic.”
If she’s an alcoholic, THEN, why is he getting her drunk to take advantage of her? What kind of friend does that to another friend?
Should I just cut both these people out of my lives. Or are my morals and values just getting in the way? I would NEVER have done what he did to her -or his wife.
My wife left me after I basiclly too care of her for 9 years. She didnt have to work and her crazy drug addict mom leached off of us and lived with us the whole time. Which started many ongoing arguments. I am aware that taking care of someone isnt love and I never made her feel that way, it was alwaysa partnership and I kind of think now that may have been my bad.
But anyways she left with our two kids and has been “living the single Las Vegas life”, she started right off the bat. I was torn up for 3 months and then moved on to dating other woman. We constantly faught on the phone, I paid more child support than I was supposed to even when I wasnt obligated to.
But now as of about 10 days ago, she calls to chit chat with me. Wants to go to dinner with me and everything. Then Friday she came over to pick up some money and she asks me to spend the night with her, so I did.
She says she wants to take it slow, which I never indicated that I wanted to be back together. I do of course because I love her with all my heart. But she really messed with my pockets, my brain and my heart. Slept with other people (1 that I know of) but shes been on a big drug and alcohol binge lately, but the sky is the limit.
I believe I can forgive her, I am certain of it. But am I a jackass or what?
Weve been apart for 7 months
She attempted to work but felt no urgency to be responsable. So she would just get fired. She says she missed out on her youth because we were married with children so young. I was 20 and she was 19
Prologue
In the midst of a land in which nobody with a simple imagination could conceive, there was a city…
The dusk sky was painted with vivid shades of orange and lavender, preparing for the dark night that was to come. A meager sliver of a moon hung with a pale glow and the beginnings of stars softly decorated the sky. Around the sunset, dense clouds threatened the coming of a rain storm.
An ancient castle surrounded by many people rested beneath the rapidly changing sky. The castle was bordered by lush vegetation, still brightly visible in the dimming sunlight. Flowers of all different hues encased the walk ways and lined the shops and homes of the people who lived there. Behind the castle was a think forest which nobody dared to enter.
At the peek of the castle was the Rose, the most beautiful sight in all the city. It’s petals were stained a deep blood-red as the leaves were a lush, inviting green. Jagged thorns engulfed the Rose, warning all people to stay away, yet it possessed a certain enchantment that beckoned you to come closer.
All eyes attentively gazed upon the only balcony on the castle. It’s dull, simple rock pigment didn’t stand out in the least, but what was on top of the balcony was what they were dedicating their attention to, an aging man and his wife next to a pillar that was crowned with a large, emerald basin. In the arms of the man was a newborn child wrapped in a soft, jade-colored blanket.
“We have a new member to our community,” bellowed the man in a deep, raspy voice that quieted the large crowd, “the child is yet to be named, but, all the same, we will begin the Sprouting Ceremony.”
The crowd cheered at such news of a new person coming into their world.
But behind the mass of people lurked the malevolent shadow of one who was not intrigued by the man’s words. His dark face revealed almost nothing of his appearance, apart from his eyes. They were almost ebony, shining with a glazed look as if they were made of black diamond. He proudly held a gold scepter incrusted with onyx-like gems. His eyes shot a piercing glare at the old man as he spoke, but he gave an even more fierce stare to the delicate child in his arms. He sensed courage, power, and importance in the tiny child. These were the things that he feared the most in beings other than himself.
The dark man whipped his head around looking toward the forest behind him. In the opening of the forest stood a stout woman who was sullenly gazing at the child. Her hair frizzed from the moisture and her simple clothes blew in the soft winds, but her face was calm. She seemed to be thinking about this child more than the others that were brought up to the castle’s balcony. Perhaps thinking of the child’s future.
“She’s waiting for the Chosen Petal to fall, as always,” thought the sinister man, to himself with a smirk.
“Now that the child has been welcomed, we shall discover the newborn’s future position in our community,” the old man declared with utter confidence. The elderly man, with the woman by his side, raised the small child up above his head. The emerald basin instantaneously released a mystical, sparkling light into the darkening sky. The infant suddenly uncurled from it’s coiled position. It’s eyes flashed open staring at the white light as if waiting for something to happen.
At that moment, the male who stood at the back of the crowd lifted up his scepter and aimed it at the child. He muttered a peculiar incantation and the scepter glimmered like the sea on a clear day. A strange form of energy emitted from the scepter falling on the child within seconds. As expected, the child was not physically harmed in any state and the ceremony continued as if nothing happened, for nobody had noticed the odd occurrence . But the dark man knew that happened.
The strange feeling of power that had radiated from the child before had vanished. The mysterious force was now enclosed in the shadowy scepter, but it slowly crept out as the seconds passed by, returning to the open air. He smirked at his accomplishment and continued to watch the ceremony.
The water inside the basin trembled and the old man peered into it, concentrating on what he saw as he lowered the child, giving the infant to the elderly woman by his side. Instantly, the child pulled its tiny fists back towards its chest and its eyes closed shut looking as if they would never open again.
“The child will be…a Flower Keeper!” cried the man.
The crowd once again cheered for the new member of their community and the lucky position the child received as future Flower Keeper.
The malicious man smiled once again at this news, as a rumble of thunder erupted from the clouds. He turned around to see the bewildered expression of the woman behind him. She shook her head with perplexity, her heather grey eyes holding a mystified expression. Another boom of thunder tolled as rain
She shook her head with perplexity, her heather grey eyes holding a mystified expression. Another boom of thunder tolled as rain began to plummet from the sky, tapping the ground with a rhythmic beat. Her wiry hair was flattened by the persistent flurry of rainfall. Her gentle eyes suddenly became harsh and unforgiving as she saw the dark man staring at her with satisfaction as if he had won a never ending battle. She gave him a final, warning glare and then solemnly staggered back into the forest.
The crowd soon began to clear away. Among them was the parents of the newborn, pleased with the future job of their child. As the boisterous activity settled down, not a soul was near the castle. Everyone had already begun to return to their busy lives. The moment serenity fell over the castle, a single crimson petal from the Rose gracefully fell in to the emerald pool, floating with complete solitude, raindrops gently engulfing its beauty .
I am in need of some help from ladies and gents! I am in my early 20s, and recently took a new job where I found myself instantly attracted to my boss who is in his late 30s. He has always been kind of flirty, which makes things harder, and nothing was more disappointing then learning he was married with kids. I let go of the idea right away.
One night when everyone went to a loud bar for after work drinks, he admitted to me (slightly inebriated) that he and his wife had been having problems for years now. He wasn’t wearing his ring and neither did she anymore. This kind of intoxicated me, but I still dropped the idea. After all, he is MARRIED and about 15 years older then me.
Just recently, we had been kind of flirty again. His wife drives me crazy. She calls the office 14 times a day demanding to speak to him and fighting with him. We have this inner-office instant messaging system and him and I constantly talk on it. I have felt very close with him because we are so much alike, and even tho he is my boss, I can tell him anything and everything about me and he hasn’t been judgmental or held it against my work.
We went out one night for drinks and I got very drunk, and on the car ride home I confessed to him that I has the hots for him since day one, and that I fantasize about him. We made out, did a little heavy petting and then I went home. The next day he had asked if I had regrets and I didn’t. We have been dirty talking, extra flirty, and he even told me how he and his wife haven’t had sex in 7 months (which I feel bad. I am a firm believer that men run on sex, and as long as they work hard, they deserve as much as they want. If the dude is unemployed bum who plays video games, no sex. haha). So, I feel bad and I want to be able to give him all that stuff he is missing out on. I like him alot, but when I think about it, we are in different stages of our lives and if he were single I don’t think I would date him. We have agreed to be friends with benefits, and neither of us has done something like this before. He told me he is slightly worried my feelings will get hurt, which they will, but I do really want that side action from him.
So my question is…. how DO I keep myself emotionally unattached? Especially when he seems to actually like me as well.
Think of these two movies:
The Notebook
And coming soon; ‘Its complicated’ (meryl streep, alec baldwin, steve martin)
In the notebook, that married woman finds that her ex-lover or whatever is back and he rebuilt a house…so she goes on a hormonal binge and makes out with her ex lover and they end up having sex. and what do women say? “awwww thats so cute”…hm, seems to me that if the roles were reversed and a man cheated on his wife (yes i know it does happen in other films but this film is based on the idea of that being sweet and touching) im sure women would be furious.
and now this new movie ‘Its Complicated’, coming out this christmas, deals with a divorced couple and the woman has remarried, she ends up sleeping with her ex and having an affair with him and its supposed to be a comedy? what is up with that? many marriages and families have been ripped apart because of unfaithful spouses and were supposed to just laugh it off because its a woman?
is this the trend of the times? or am i thinking into it too hard?